Saturday, January 17, 2026

Wrapping things up.

 

                                           

                 
click here to watch 10 seconds of nonsense!

    

January 25th will be my last Sunday in the Nazarene church. I bet some hard-core Orthodox will think I should just "cut and run" as soon as I can. After all, they'd say, you found the Church; why would you wait any longer than you have to? Well, to be honest, I think it will help me to process my loss. Yes, it is a loss! I have been going to this church for over 30 years and have made very good friends. We were (and are) a group of people who sincerely love Jesus, who struggled together, who watched each other's kids grow up and leaving that will take some getting used to.  I know what I will be getting is beyond compare. To be united to Christ in the Eucharist, to pray with the faithful, asking for the intercession of the Saints, to hear the words of the early Church Fathers is something that is beyond compare. But, I am still leaving something good behind so allow me to mourn for that, if you please.

My first Sunday at the Orthodox Parish will be February1st but i have to finish up some paper work as Sunday School Superintendent and get it ready for the mid-February Board meeting which I will not be attending.  Some of things the Nazarene church will have to figure out is if they will live-stream the second service since I won't be doing it anymore. Right now, my friend James live-streams the first service so maybe they will just leave it at that. Also, I am the one who takes the video service and turns it into an audio podcast for distribution on Libsyn.com.  I wonder if that will continue with someone else.  I also manage their Facebook page and Facebook group but will, obviously do so no longer.

One of the projects I work with Pastor Del on is his weekly video devotion which is published on Sunday evenings.  He decided to call it "Sunday Vespers" (A name I wouldn't have chosen since Vespers is a prayer service) but, he's the boss so he gets to pick the title.  As of this posting he is in a series on the Psalms where he reads portions of a Psalm and comments.  Many people find this encouraging, so I am sorry to have to leave it.  Maybe someone else can continue with it. I have told him that we will continue until he finishes up the Psalms.  (He is up to Psalm 97 right now) but once that is done, then that will end my official ties to the Nazarene church. 

A sample video of Pastor Del doing "Sunday Vespers."

I have been emailing Fr. Gary and he says that I will be received as a Catechumen on February 8. There will be a short service before the Divine Liturgy where I (and someone else apparently) will have the prayers of the Catechumens said over us.  I guess that will make me an Official Orthodox-wanna-be and that point.  I wonder how long it'll take till I am Chrismated?  I guess I'll find out from the new priest.

Oh, I forgot to mention, - I learned on Epiphany when I went to the service that Fr. Gary will be retiring and come next month a new priest will be assigned by Bishop Michael.  May God grant many years to Fr. Gary and his wife Matushka Mary. I thank God for them both and I am glad that Fr. Gary will be the one to make me a Catechumen. 

Fr. Gary and Matushaka Mary on vacation. 
Yes, even Priests get to take vacations.

So there you have it.  Keep me in your prayers.


 

Friday, January 16, 2026

Two Difficult Mondays

Pastor Del

My wife and I met with Pastor Del on a Monday Morning. To say we were a bit nervous would be an understatement.  The man we were going to speak to was our Pastor for over thirty years. He has helped me personally through some hardships (brought on by my own stupidity) and did so with Grace, Compassion and the Love of Christ.  He loved us and all his parishioners, and we were about to tell him that we were leaving.


It was my wife who started us on this present course, so she is the one who spoke.  I did not interrupt with my own thoughts; instead, I let her tell her story.  She recounted to Pastor Del how lately she felt drawn to the Catholic Church, loving the beauty of its liturgy and how she had a longing for the Eucharist.  Pastor remarked, regarding the beauty of worship, how he thought “we have that here” and we did not comment what we were thinking that there is no comparison to Liturgy and to what takes place among these God fearing Christians. No doubt, it is sincere from their hearts but it cannot compare to liturgical worship.  Pastor Del went on to say, “You know, the Catholics believe the Eucharist is the actual body and Blood of Jesus, do you believe that?” She said “yes” and I could see on his face that he was surprised. 


He then moved on to me.

“So, Jim, where do you stand in all of this?”

I reminded him about our meeting  back in 2011 – I didn’t expect him to remember the details; the only reason I remembered is because I blogged about them here and re-read them before our meeting this day- I said that I had met with him then and talked to him about my desire to join the Orthodox Church but was prevented from it by the wise counsel of  Fr. Gary who said that if my wife wasn’t on board to stay where I am.  That has changed, I told him, my wife now understood the importance of receiving the Eucharist and encouraged me to do so.

When I got to that point, Pastor Del interrupted me and said, “Are you telling me that you are both leaving the church?”

We both said, “Yes.”

He said, “You’ll have to excuse me a moment.” He then stood up, walked out the door.  He was actually gone a few minutes and my wife and I sat in awkward silence.  I resisted the impulse to fill the silence with an attempt at a witty remark and I am glad I kept silent.

He came back, apologized for leaving and said he been praying.  He told us he believed it would be a mistake to leave. This is where God brought you guys, he said, and we shouldn’t leave.  Our response showed him that we were resolute in our decision. He made a remark about the Eucharist and how it’s done in this church (to be honest I don’t’ remember the specifics of what he said) but I countered that there really was a difference between the Nazarene church and the Catholic /Orthodox view of things. He cut me off saying it was no use arguing about theology (or something to that effect.) I could see he really didn’t want to talk theology which, is a shame, because that was the reason we were leaving.  He then told us we would always have a home here, that he would always consider himself our pastor.


 He concluded this hard meeting by praying for us.  As soon as he said “amen,” I offered my own pray, thanking God for this godly man and the things I learned from him. I specifically mentioned how our board meetings were a spiritual affair; we started in prayer which lasted at least a half hour. I said I was grateful for the good example that set.

We ended the meeting with a hug and he said it would take a while for him to get over this.  Karen told me later, with a smile, that after he prayed, she was going to cross herself but thought that might put the poor over the edge.

Some church board meetings resembled the picture above. Thankfully, 
that was not the case for our church. We led and finished with prayer.

The following Monday was board meeting. As Sunday School Superintendent, I was a member of the board so I thought I should go.  I figured  this would be my last board meeting. Pastor had asked me in our Monday meeting if he wanted me to tell the board or should he. I said, he could do it. (I thought I might get too choked up to do it.) For some reason, I had thought he would announce it at the end of the meeting or, make it a topic on the agenda.  Instead, after sharing a scripture and before we began our time of prayer, he announced that Karen and I would be leaving the church.  He said the reason was that Karen believed that the Eucharist was the literal Body and Blood of Christ. I sort of interrupted him and said, “Well, there’s more to it than that.”  Pastor replied that seems to be the main point of what she said. In a sense, he’s right. In our meeting, Karen held  back a bit, not mentioning how the church services had not been something she could become engaged in and thus found it hard to worship (and for some other reasons I won’t get into) and that the Liturgy really helped center her thoughts on Christ but she hadn’t mentioned it because she thought he would take it personally as a slight against him.  So her views on the Eucharist seemed to be the only reason we were leaving.

I went on to say that while Karen was going to be Catholic, I was going to become Orthodox. I, almost jokingly said, “If you want to know more, you can read my blog.” A board member named Ted spoke up.(He has an amazing story on how God literally saved him after a horrible traffic accident…. I might share that here sometime in the future, if Ted allows.) Ted said, “Wait a minute- You and Karen will be going to different Churches? No offense, but that’s a red flag to me.”  It was a surprise to both Karen and I that Pastor Del did not bring up this very point during our meeting. I think it is because he was so shocked by the news of us leaving and quite upset by it that the thought didn’t enter his mind.  I answered Ted that the Catholics have many Masses in one day while the Orthodox only celebrate the Liturgy once on a Sunday so Karen and I can go to a later Mass together.  I know some hard core Orthodox may object to me attending a heterodox service, but this is something I discussed with Father Gary.  He says (and I quite agree) that sometimes attending a service with a loved one is an act of love towards that person.  I assured Fr. Gary that I would not be receiving communion at the Mass.  Our going to separate Churches is a cause of concern to myself and Karen but we have discussed it and will continue to share our spiritual lives with each other, praying together and encouraging each other.


After this short discussion, we began our time of prayer at the board meeting. Our habit is to go around the room with each board member praying out loud and Pastor Del would always conclude the prayer.  As I said, this would take at least a half hour and it made for very unified and calm board meetings.  I was touched by the many prayers for Karen and I with some even weeping because of our departure. 

We concluded the pray and went on to attend to the business of the church. 

I must say it was a difficult night but I truly am touched by the love and concern of all these people for us.  We have been friends and fellow servants of Christ for over thirty years and saying good-bye is not easy.  But I know God has great things in store for me and my wife as we continue on our journey.

Keep us in your prayers.


 

 

 

Tuesday, January 13, 2026

Breakfast with Fr. Gary

a Cozy place for a meeting with a priest

 Now my wife becoming Catholic will not be a quick affair.  OCAI (Order of Christian Initiation for Adults) will be a year-long process. OCAI will probably start sometimes in the fall. (Despite the publication date of this post, in "real time" when I am writing this, it is actually a week before Christmas.) That means she won't be Catholic until Easter of 2027 so she sees no reason to rush to speak our Pastor. 

I, however, wanted to not wait that long.  You see, attending Mass with my wife helped me put my protestant parish is sharp contrast to Liturgical Worship.  As much as I love the people in my protestant parish, I do not find it easy to participate in the worship service.  The songs are too emotional and, sorry to say, vapid (at least to me, anyway) - my boredom in the service is what prompted me to get involved in the "production" end of the service. That is, I operate the Video camera for the Livestream.  I fear that years of doing this has made me quite complacent in my spiritual life.  But attending Mass with my wife has reawakened my yearning for Eucharistic centered Worship and I want to become a member of the Orthodox Church sooner rather than later.

That means a sit down with my Pastor to explain what is going on. I offered to talk to Pastor Del on my own and speak for the both of us but Karen rightly said that Pastor Del has been our Pastor for over 30 years and deserves a face-to-face conversation.  So we decided we will make an appointment with him after Christmas. 

In the meantime, I wanted to speak with Father Gary to let him know what is going on. I knew that Father Gary was on Vacation, so I thought I ought to reach out to him to request an appointment for when he came back.  All this happened right before Thanksgiving, in the midst of the Nativity Fast so I wrote the following in an email to him:  



Father Gary responded quickly with this witty reply:


Hardy, Har, Har! I love a priest with a good sense of humor.  (And, no, I had real turkey on Thanksgiving:) ) To show what good shepherd Father Gary is, basically, as soon as he returned from Vacation, he didn't wait for me to contact him but rather shot me an email asking when we could meet. I recommended IHOP but he thought a place recommended by one of his parishoners was a better place to go. Sandy's Cafe turned out to be a cozier place.  

I like the small town vibe of this place


We sat down and Fr. Gary ordered a plain everything Bagel, toasted and dry and a black coffee. Even though I wasn't keeping the fast, I ordered a tea with honey and an English muffin with jelly.  I told Fr. Gary the reason I suggested IHOP was because that is where we first met to discuss my longing to enter into the Church.  (See Orthodoxy or Bust!: Breakfast in the morning ~ 35th visit in the evening! to read about that meeting) I told him about my wife's journey and her pull to Catholicism.  I then mentioned that she had said if I wasn't going to convert to Catholicism then I needed to become Orthodox because, how could I live without the Eucharist? This, of course, was a drastic change from my last meeting where I honestly had to say my wife was not on board with me becoming Orthodox.  Fr. Gary went on to say he wasn't surprised how the Holy Spirit worked in the lives of people since he's seen it all the time. He went on to say that my period as being a catechumen wouldn't have to be a long time, especially since I have been attending the parish, off and on since Pentecost Vespers in 2010. I told him I knew a lot of the doctrine of the Church but needed to learn how to live the day-to-day life of an Orthodox Christian.  He said it would be good for me to go through Great Lent before I was received into the Church.  

So all that remains is for my wife and I to sit down with our Pastor and explain to him how we have to leave the church.  I know it will not be an easy meeting. He has been our Pastor for 31 years and he has always been a faithful witness to the Love of Christ, exemplifying God's love in his words and actions.  But I am not sure he'll understand and know he will be very upset.  Lord, have mercy!

Of your charity, keep us in your prayers.






Saturday, January 10, 2026

Well, I didn't See that Coming!!!!!

 


photo by Xavi Cabrera

     As I said in my last post (five years ago!), even though I don’t post much anymore, I still attend Vespers when I can, given my involvement in my Protestant Parish (where I’ve been a member for over thirty years.) I had not entered into the Orthodox Church, mainly because of the disunity it would have caused in my marriage.  But something happened which, honestly, I did not see coming! No, no one is dead and no one is divorced but one morning my wife Karen and I are sitting in the living room before we eat breakfast (which is our morning routine) and she quietly tells me  “I’ve been listening to Catholic podcasts in the last few months and I feel a draw towards Mary and a desire to receive the Eucharist. I have been following the Catechism in a year podcast and I think I want to become Catholic.” I was flabbergasted! This was completely unexpected and I, quite frankly, never thoutht I would hear those words. My wife was bought up very Lutheran and recoiled at the idea of praying to the Saints.  But here she is telling me she is drawn to Mary!

My wife's announcement was a surprising as this 
fictional incident in this video....Yes, I have fun with A.I

     Wait a minute, Jim. How does this help you? Roman Catholic ain’t Eastern Orthodox! Remember 1054 A.D.? I know, and I have no intentions of becoming Roman Catholic, but this is a huge shift in my former Iconoclast wife’s way of thinking.  I never heard her speak before of a desire for the Body and Blood of Christ in the Eucharist nor had she ever spoken of honoring Mary as she does now. Her way of thinking has changed. For example,  she was visibly angry when she learned how Martin Luther threw out books of the bible because it didn’t suit him. Luther also added words to the bible that wasn’t there  so that Romans 3:28 reads “a man is justified through faith alone, apart from the works of the law” That really got her mad! .And you should have seen her when I told her that Luther almost got rid of the book of James.

     I suggested we attend Mass on Sunday, before we headed over to our Protestant Church.  Understand, as much as I love the people (and Pastor) in my Protestant parish- and they really do love Jesus -  I have increasingly been dissatisfied with the music which mostly consists of what I call “little ditties” which are chorus of little substance and a heavy reliance on emotional appeal.  So, when we went to Mass with its Liturgy and respectful worship, well, let’s just say we felt like we were at Church. 

     Over the weeks, Karen continued to study the Catechism and faithfully went to Mass, even on the days she had to work (She’d always skip our Protestant church on the Sundays she was scheduled to work but that didn’t happen with Mass.) In our discussions I told her I could not become Catholic after all I have become to believe regarding the Orthodox Church and she said:

          “If you don’t become Catholic then you will have to become Orthodox. How

          Can you live without the Eucharist?”

     So that is where I stand now.  I continue to attend Mass with her but realize I have to take the plunge and enter into Communion with the Orthodox Church.  That means I’ll have to have a discussion with my Protestant Pastor (which won't be easy) and talk to Father Gary on next steps. 

     I would love for my wife to become Orthodox, but I can see real growth in her relationship to Jesus by her attendance to Mass and her studying the Catechism. My own journey towards Orthodoxy started out with me exploring Roman Catholicism and seriously considering converting. So I understand her journey and am grateful for her growth and I would rather see her in a Catholic Church than both of us staying Protestant.  As great as these people are, we were both rather stagnant in our walk with the Lord.  But, with this turn of events, we are both growing closer to each other and to Christ -We even started praying together again. 

So, in your charity, keep us in prayer.

Glory to Jesus Christ!


Sunday, August 2, 2020

Going to Vespers - Pandemic Edition


It's been literally years since I've blogged about attending a Divine Service. I've posted a sermon here and there or some "Orthodox" thoughts but not my reaction to attending a service.  Even though it is my practice to still attend, (When I can given I'm still an active Protestant)  I guess I stopped my reaction blogs because I was starting to repeat myself. I mean, what else can I say about the glory and beauty of Orthodox Worship?

Well, this Corona virus has made attending a Divine Service a somewhat different experience and warrants a post.   My Protestant Parish hasn't had an in-person service since the end of March so I haven't been to any Service (Protestant or Orthodox) for over four months!  So I can tell you it was great to be in Church again, to see the Icons, to smell the incense and to light a candle.  But it was different. As you can see from the picture below, we were together but apart. Yes, we practiced social distancing (I'm really beginning to hate that phrase!)

Father Gary in front leading us in prayer
Fr. Gary leading us in prayer

But apparently I need some more training on how to properly practice social distancing. Given that there is so much space given for a person, while standing, I must have wandered into someone else's space because a lady turned around and motioned for me to get back. At first, I thought she was giving me a greeting but then I noticed the hand gestures. Boy, was I embarrassed! But it did serve to remind me that some people remember (even as I forget)  just how serious this COVID-19 is. It is a deadly disease and some people have more reason than others  to be afraid of catching it.  Underlying conditions, can kill some people.  I'm sure everyone knows someone (even if peripherally) who has died because of this thing.  So I wandered back into my space and continued worship.  

Speaking of worship, it was, as always, beautiful. But we had no service books so if you didn't "know the words" you had to just hum along. Thankfully, I've attended enough Vespers Services to hold my own when it came to participating.  Also, when Fr. Gary incensed the Icons he did so from a respectful distance of other parishioners. And I did notice that no altar server kissed his hand when taking the censor.  

Indeed, the lack of kissing - of each other, of Icons - seemed very unorthodox to me but that's just the way it is nowadays.  I was especially sad, because I did see reader John and his wife Tami and she normally gives the triple Russian kiss (on the cheeks just in case some readers didn't know) but last night we only bowed to each other.  But it was great to see them again and to catch up.  

When I drove up before the service began I did notice a full parking lot - well, full by Saturday night Vespers Standards, a service that is not normally as well attended on a Sunday morning.  But, since 'Rona has come to town, services are strictly monitored as to how many may attend.  So many people who can't attend Sunday morning (due to space) show up on Saturday night since there is no room on Sunday morning.  I commend Fr. Gary on how he handles "crowd control." You just can't walk into the service.  For Sunday morning Divine Liturgy, it is "invitation only" and he sends out an email at the beginning of the week to selected Faithful.  Of course, he rotates the roster so all of the members eventually have a chance to attend Sunday morning and, most importantly, receive the Body and Blood of the Lord in the Eucharist.  For Vespers, it is "first come; first served" and you sign up on an online sign up sheet.  

my chair

When I first walked into the nave, I saw an empty chair and headed for it. It wasn't until I was there a few minutes that I realized that each chair had a name (Yes, assigned seating) and I, by chance, happened to choose the right chair because when I turned around to put my hat down, I noticed my name!  Sure glad I didn't take someone else's chair!


The Corona Virus has made going back to Church a little different but it is still a joy.  To hear the hymns being sung, to smell the incense which bring to mind the prayers offered up to God in the book of Revelation, to listen to Fr. Gary encourage the Faithful- All of this makes going to Church worth it and, God willing, I'll be back again soon!

Stay safe out there people!

The Icon in the center of the Nave - No Kissing allowed!




Sunday, March 29, 2020

What's the difference between the Orthodox and the Catholics?


A friend of mine recently asked me the difference between the Roman Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church. I figured one of  the best resources on this subject is from Ancient Faith Radio. Here is a link to Orthodoxy or Heterodoxy podcasts:



This is the best comparison between Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy I've ever heard!

It's worth the listen!

Tuesday, September 18, 2018

Vespers ~ Exaltation of the Holy Cross!

photo by Fr Ted
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check out more photos here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/frted/

It's been eons since I've posted and I bet some of you thought I was dead! Well, I'm still hear and I am still making my way to Orthodox Services. Here is a homily by Father Gary which I thought very good. I hope you enjoy!




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcqykxbnlN4&feature=youtu.be