tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9027438145843075022.post4914142076663909380..comments2023-06-26T08:07:39.634-04:00Comments on Orthodoxy or Bust!: Sixth Visit - Prostrations galore!Jimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18023716101668315942noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9027438145843075022.post-43842019461334091342010-08-18T06:03:44.899-04:002010-08-18T06:03:44.899-04:00Ambrosia,
I too find that everyone is non judgemen...Ambrosia,<br />I too find that everyone is non judgemental and helpful...It's a great relief!Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18023716101668315942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9027438145843075022.post-51071564909460252822010-08-18T06:03:03.089-04:002010-08-18T06:03:03.089-04:00O.Mark,
I got the term "Profound bow" fr...O.Mark,<br />I got the term "Profound bow" from Fr Dave Dwyer, a RC priest from "Busted halo"...Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18023716101668315942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9027438145843075022.post-5399541204837202212010-08-18T06:00:47.229-04:002010-08-18T06:00:47.229-04:00Michael,
That's great advice on what to do if ...Michael,<br />That's great advice on what to do if I am struck down! :}Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18023716101668315942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9027438145843075022.post-5347582933227298982010-08-17T17:49:04.521-04:002010-08-17T17:49:04.521-04:00I recently converted, actually I guess it's be...I recently converted, actually I guess it's been more than 5 years, but I still have questions and concerns about how I am doing things. When I asked what I should be doing in church (before I became a catachumen), I was always told only whatever I was comfortable doing. I was raised Southern Baptist, so venerating Icons was difficult for me at first. I would cross during prayers, but not at the icons and it took several weeks to kiss any other icon besides Christ. Find someone in the church you are comfortable being around and ask them what you should do if you are unsure. From what I've learned is Orthodox are not pushy or judgmental, but we love to help newcomers when asked! And when you are ready to become a catechumen, everything will be explained. Don't be afraid to try and don't be afraid to ask. <br />~AmbrosiaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9027438145843075022.post-37778200732025888132010-08-17T12:26:03.700-04:002010-08-17T12:26:03.700-04:00ha! ha! "profound bow" that sounds like...ha! ha! "profound bow" that sounds like a neologism for "correctly done bow" in a new calendar milieu. <br /><br />o. Mark<br />www.roca.orgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9027438145843075022.post-53110137847177611392010-08-16T14:01:00.368-04:002010-08-16T14:01:00.368-04:00Begging pardon. It was anonymous, and not Alexand...Begging pardon. It was anonymous, and not Alexandra.<br /><br />I found you through OC.net, BTW.Bbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10989307876421460920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9027438145843075022.post-25545522864156563392010-08-16T14:00:03.529-04:002010-08-16T14:00:03.529-04:00I think it's just a case of trying to do what ...I think it's just a case of trying to do what is standard while at the same time realising that there is no need to be self-conscious. Alexandra has pointed out that there are different ways people prostrate. In addition, not everybody does all of the prostrations, and some people will not do them at certain times which are different from the times that others do not do them. Much of this is down to local or national custom, while some of it is simply down to misunderstanding. Do the best you can and you will not be struck down. If you are, then just do a prostration while you're down there, and all will be well.Bbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10989307876421460920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9027438145843075022.post-4221314499285440112010-08-10T16:42:31.791-04:002010-08-10T16:42:31.791-04:00Not that I know of, I don't believe I've e...Not that I know of, I don't believe I've ever commented on a podcast. I just like following your blog, it's very intriguing to see the perspective of a developing newcomer after I've already been so entrenched in the Church. If you ever want a new/different view on something or have a question about wider American Orthodoxy, please don't hesitate to email me: afr2ah@virginia.edu<br />:-)Alexandranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9027438145843075022.post-67323454910956014342010-08-09T19:39:40.496-04:002010-08-09T19:39:40.496-04:00Thank you Alexandra: soon I will blog about my sev...Thank you Alexandra: soon I will blog about my seventh visit where I actually participate... It is a great comment that "we don't care what you do as long as you are respectful"... That is because everyone should be concentrating on worship ... By the way, are you the alendra who once left a comment on my old podcast "leaning east"AKA monkey in the middle?Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18023716101668315942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9027438145843075022.post-15393060501922739612010-08-08T21:57:23.215-04:002010-08-08T21:57:23.215-04:00There are some variations on prostrations... some ...There are some variations on prostrations... some people don't fully touch their head to the ground, some return to a standing position differently than others, some are more comfortable in a compact position closer to the floor and others prefer their bodies to be more angular. The fact remaining is that there are only so many comfortable ways to do a prostration, and when one is doing them very frequently, in quick succession, and holding still during one for very long periods of time (such as in Lent), one rapidly learns how to and how not to prostrate. :-)<br /><br />That being said, I second the recommendation to please, relax. I remember being self-conscious in church and carefully watching what everyone else was doing to make sure I got it right. Now that I'm part of "everyone else," I can safely say that we don't really care what you do or how you do it as long as you're being respectful. Please feel no qualms about prostrating, venerating icons, etc.- if you undertake such actions with the proper intent, it can only help your movement towards the Church. Don't feel restricted, but let yourself experience worship!<br /><br />-AlexandraAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9027438145843075022.post-31404938630599882822010-08-08T05:37:12.963-04:002010-08-08T05:37:12.963-04:00Thanks for the link: I just read it and it gives g...Thanks for the link: I just read it and it gives great details on how to make a proper prostration. I wonder, is there ever any variation on how to do a prostration?Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18023716101668315942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9027438145843075022.post-4467284450166955252010-08-06T22:05:36.920-04:002010-08-06T22:05:36.920-04:00How to properly do a prostration, according to the...How to properly do a prostration, according to the Russians: http://www.roca.org/OA/151/151b.htmAgabusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9027438145843075022.post-67957500376360568662010-08-05T02:55:20.167-04:002010-08-05T02:55:20.167-04:00Not so much as a white rapper -after all, Eminem i...Not so much as a white rapper -after all, Eminem is pretty sucessful :) - I feel more like a wedding crasher; I am at a party that I kind of barged in on and I feel I should just stay quiet in the corner so no one asks me to leave...Not that they would really ask me to leave (Actually, they have been very welcoming), I think I am afraid of doing things wrong...I mean, has anyone ever gotten hurt from a badly executed prostration?Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18023716101668315942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9027438145843075022.post-29558802741706924842010-08-04T09:59:11.080-04:002010-08-04T09:59:11.080-04:00I think what you are saying is that you feel like ...I think what you are saying is that you feel like you are playing at being Orthodox rather than being Orthodox. (kind of like a white rapper)? Am I understanding you correctly? <br /><br />If so, please don't worry. You are certainly welcome to do any of those things. Do what seems natural at the time and the others that you are less comfortable with will follow. My non-Orthodox husband crosses himself at the invocation of the Trinity and he even kisses icons and he has no intention of becoming Orthodox.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com